Gears, Capstan, Decking and more

DougLathe & Machining, Steel Boat, Winches

vs160715-001I’ve been listening to “The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People” lately, ….actually I’m on the second time through it.  There will likely be many more times.  Habit #1 is be proactive.   In short:  Work.  Work on the things you can work on today.  Do something every day to make your goal happen.  Make work your habit.  I suggest you put a picture up of your completed goal.  You’ll see Chinese Junk Sailboats on my walls.   Does it matter what you work on?  YES, but there are 7 habits, this is just #1.

And thanks to Cody for all the CNC and Boring done last weekend.  And Bart for adding some textured planks to the gangway.  We are back inside, out of the heat and working on the ROV.     –Doug

 

Sailmaking: Cotton or Polyester? – Boating tips for begginers

BetsySails, Steel Boat

As the time counts down until we hit the water, it’s time to start working on the sails.      It’s a massive undertaking even for someone who has an above average ability for sewing and stitchery.   But despite my public school 7th grade Home Ec course, this is far and beyond the first pillowcase my grandmother taught me to sew on her Singer sewing machine.  Even tailoring classes in college can’t compare nor the dozens of garments that I sewed including prom dresses, camp shorts, and outrageous Halloween costumes.   These sails are HUGE! With that in mind, I’m ready to take on this textile endeavor.

When the plans for the boat were drawn up, a drawing of the sales was also supplied.   While it gives us a basic idea of what we’re trying to achieve, it is in no way what could be considered a “sail plan” or “sail design”.   The original drawing from the boat designer shows a few measurements on an outline that includes batten placements.    By scanning this into cad and plugging in the measurements, we arrived at what is the general sail design.  Fortunately it meets the ratios for what is called a “low aspect sail” in the world of Chinese Lug Sails but other than that… we’re on our own.

With this in mind, we made some calculations and arrived at some approximate measurements in order to calculate the yardage of sailcloth needed.

Mainsail:  1,251 sq feet or 139 sq. yards

Foresail: 710 sq feet or 79 sq. yards

Mizzen:  235 sq feet or 26 sq. yards

The color is Tanbark (though you might call it red)

Points to consider:

  • We’ve always wanted red sails.  The actual term for that color is Tan Bark.
  • Options are to go with a canvas like Sunbrella or a more common sail fabric, Dacron.
  • Both are available in variable weights but the Dacron will stretch less than the canvas (and it’s less expensive)
  • No raveling on the edges makes the actual layout and sewing much easier.
  • The larger sail will require a heavier canvas than the smaller sail

Now comes the hard part.   How heavy must the fabric be and where do you get the stuff?

What’s interesting is that there are not very many junk rigs in excess of 50′.   Most of the websites and catalogues for sailcloth speak in boat lengths up to 50′.   The next largest junk rig we have to compare is the 60′ Magic Pearl which is being constructed by Robin & Kim.  For their mainsail they chose a 10 ounce dacron.   But we’re still 25% bigger.. so what do we do?

All Dacron sails begin at the same point — Dupont.   The fibers are then woven, treated and heated and given catchy sailing names by less than a handful of Sailcloth makers in the world.    I checked the retail outlets… but 8.5 ounces is the heaviest fabric I can find.

So I went Wholesale!   I first contacted Bainbridge — an American company  who offered a Tanbark sailcloth but only up to 8.5 ounces.   FYI weights are per square yard… and a square yard  for this weight measurement is actually about 32″ x 36″.

Bainbridge is a wholesaler so I knew that I might have a few problems communicating with a salesman, but what the heck. As I feared, Mario was not much help and really knew very little about the product or it’s possibilities.   He told me to call a sailmaker as they would have to provide the prices and any other information. But I’m the sailmaker!!!!! I asked if it was true that their Tanbark product was only available up to 8.5 ounces.   Yeah…said Mario… and furthermore.. no special orders!   Mario was evidently in a hurry to grab a slice and head for the Jersey shore!

So I moved to the next on my list, Challenge Sailmakers.    I could never find a phone number…  take note!   So I moved  on to the next one…

Contender Sailcloth.  A European company, they have an office (sales) in the US and I had a great talk with Tom at 508-674-7700. Their product is called Fibercon AP and it’s available in a huge amount of weights all the way up to 15 ounces!   Furthermore, we can order directly from them AND they’ll even send us a sample!  Woohoo… customer service!      While Tom was very informed on his product he still couldn’t confirm what weights we’d actually need although I do have it narrowed down.

Thoughts:

Main:  12.5 or 15 ounce  ($27 or $29/yard

Fores’l:  9 ounce ($18/yard)

Mizzen:  7 or 8 ounce ($17)

All together that’s $6-$7000.  (Don’t go all bean counter on me. it’s JUST an estimate)

They have the lighter weights in stock.. but the heavier one will likely need to be ordered… no problem…  we have a few years time.

Next assignment is to see if I can’t find somebody out there who has experience in sales for boats over 70′ in length to try and narrow down the weights.   Tom suggested I  find David Bierig in Pennsylvania.  He’s a Tall Ship sailmaker.  Who knows…  in 50 years of sailmaking, maybe he’s come across a junk rig.  But first.. we have to find a phone number.

When it comes to boating, as with most things in life, there is no substitute for experience. This time of year, as boaters all across the country are returning to the water, many are venturing out on boats for the very first time. Remember that for most of the places boating and sailing requires a license, before you continue reading make sure to get familiar with this boating test exam.

IF YOU’RE ONE OF THESE ROOKIE BOATERS, HERE ARE A FEW TIPS TO HELP YOU IN YOUR FIRST BOATING SEASON.

  1. Check the weather before you hit the water. If you already checked it, check again before you head out. Weather changes, and unexpected storms can sneak up on you. If you’re new to boating, that’s no time to be caught by a surprise squall.
  2. Get on and off the boat ramp quickly so other boaters aren’t giving you the evil eye. Load your boat ahead of time—not on the ramp. Find an empty parking lot and practice steering with your trailer so you’ll have experience come launch day.
  3. Dress in layers. It might be warm on land, but you don’t want to get cold if the breeze kicks up on the water. Be prepared for changes in conditions.
  4. Go slow when docking. If you rush, you could damage your boat, the dock, or worst of all, another boat. If it’s not going well, don’t be too proud to back away and start again.
  5. Pack more food and water than you think you’ll need. You may be surprised by how boating works up your hunger and thirst. There’s no drive-through on the water, so make sure you’re well stocked.
  6. Valuables like cell phones, keys and wallets have a way of getting wet or falling in the drink. Make sure they’re secured.
  7. Leave a float plan. Things can go wrong on the water. Make sure if you get stuck out there, somebody onshore knows when and where to look for you.
  8. Always wear a lifejacket. The vast majority of boating-related deaths occur because victims were not wearing a lifejacket. It’s easy to do, and it could save your life.
  9. Have an onboard first-aid kit. When you are on the water, you can’t just run to the doctor’s office if you suffer an injury. Be prepared to treat yourself until you can get back to land.
  10. Have a tool box. If you have a mechanical problem when boating, you don’t want to be stuck on the water for hours waiting for help to arrive. Have tools and spare parts available so you can fix any problems yourself.

Capstan Progress

DougSteel Boat, Winches

Many thanks to Cody Allan Rydell who spent a last weekend cutting gears and a day at the lathe. The bore is over 7 1/2 inches and had to be cut back almost a 1/4″. A huge job for our Grizzly lathe. Lots of chatter and heat with our 1″ boring bar and to top it off, this capstan did the strangest thing. Normally as the part heats up it gets larger on the ID, but this thing go smaller. I guess it’s the spokes that are supported by the drum, but he kept cutting and cutting without the progress we expected. But after cooling down, there was just 30 thousands left to go.    We have one more to turn down and then we can haul them down to Super Dave who has a shapper that can cut the keyways.  The keyway is 7 inches long, 2 3/8″ ID and about a 9/16″ wide.

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Gangway and Sail Winch

DougGangway, Steel Boat, Winches

Bart Robinson

Bart Robinson

We could not be happier with the gangway and catwalk.   The summer heat is here so we will be moving inside the shop to complete work on the ROV.   We’ll need an outboard to replace our dead Suzuki 150 on the boat before we can test the ROV at the lake.   Please drop us a line if you have an outboard something you’d like to donate or make us a deal on.  –Doug

 

Portlights and Gangway

DougGangway, Steel Boat

One of our visitors asked me the other day if my friends thought I was crazy for building this boat.  I told her “No.  Those people are not friends.”   Friends are the people who support your dreams. Avoid the others.  You don’t want worry, fear, doubt and pessimism around.  Amazing people, will be drawn to amazing projects, and Seeker has some amazing crew.  Find your friends among those people.

Craig Durkin

Craig Durkin

Cecil Mozingo

Cecil Mozingo

Andrew Quitmeyer

Andrew Quitmeyer

The Gangway is ready!

DougGangway, Steel Boat

Many thanks to everyone that worked on this one.  And there where a lot of hands involved in this one.  Dan, Andrew, Craig, Bart, Ron, Tony, Jack, and a few more I am likely forgetting.  And this also is our last weekend working outside.   The ROV is front and center and will hopefully be in the water by September.   After that we hope it will be much cooler and we will be back to working steel on the boat.   And thanks to all our crew members and supports.  Remember to visit our Junk Store.  Nothing makes Betsy happier than packing up a mug or T-shirt.

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250 pounds, and it will float.

250 pounds, and it will float.

Bart Robinson

Bart Robinson

Ronald Brewer

Ronald Brewer

Gangway Gang

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Bart and Ron installing the hatch in the forward bulkhead.

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Adding rungs to the gangway.

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Tony and I making the welds look pretty.

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Tony Cavazos, McAllen Texas

Tony Cavazos, McAllen Texas

Ron Brewer, West Monroe, Louisiana

Ron Brewer, West Monroe, Louisiana

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Portlights and Rigging and thinking about moving.

DougPortholes, Rigging

image003 YouTuber Nick Richards of Renegade Trucker and Renegade Sailing stopped in last weekend and we talked about hauling the boat.  Turns out that Oklahoma is not third world with trucking permits.  You can go online 24/7 and get one.  It did give us a surprising route.  Certainly not the most direct path.  Betsy and I closely measured the boat at 16 feet to the top of the bulwarks.  The max is 18 feet, so if we build a custom trailer we should be able to clear all the obstacles.

 

ODOT Route for 17 feet high.

ODOT Route for 17 feet high.

vs160619-001Matt Stellpflug was in for the weekend from Minneapolis Minnesota.   My back was acting up so I took a back seat and let Matt and Bart do the lion’s share of work on tacking together our portlights.   Matt also got a 1/12th scale model of Seeker’s deck completed.  We will use that to help design the sails and layout the sail rigging.

This week we welcome Andrew and Craig from Atlanta Georgia.   With Jack and Bart who are also planing on working that will make five of us in the sweltering summer heat.  We’ll hopefully knock out the portlights and get a good start on the gangway.   Then we are done with the boat till fall. And instead I’ll be in the shop with the AC on high working to get the ROV into the water.

Many thanks to everyone who is watching and supporting the work!   –Doug

Portlight Help

DougPortholes, Steel Boat

We want to add portlights or portholes to the cabin tops.  I had a design for a wedge-shaped unit that is open at the top when the wedge is one way and then closed when the wedge is turned around.   It’s drawn showing it installed in a 3 foot, 1 meter, tall cabin tops, but we lowered our cabin tops to half that height.  So now the opening would have to be right at the deck in order to clear the ceiling when you pull it out to turn it around.   We can make it a wedge in the other direction as well, so it’s not as long at the bottom as it is across the top, but that makes for a strange shaped portlight.

We could buy portholes.  We actually bought a bunch of them from India but what we received was not want we paid for and I do not want to repeat that experience.  Does anyone need 19, aluminum portholes of various designs and conditions?

19 inch aluminum portholes

19 inch aluminum portholes

We could build 12 inch portholes, maybe even cast them.  Devin Holland came up with the following design.  It’s a starter, but like the wedge idea, it does not account for the 2 1/2″ wall thickness behind the steel.

What we are looking for is something that provides light to the interior, opens for ventilation, but it will need to be fitted with an insect screen.  The cabin top leans inward so it has allow water to drain away.  Must securely close.  And needs to be centered at least half way above the deck.

Let us know your thoughts and ideas.